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I'll ride the Eurostar Avelia-Evolyn Train (High Speed Train) in 2025. I will like it.

French vacations?

@@FelixSeverus Yeah, I know that they can take looooong pauses for vacations, but it's usually August that's mostly affected. Having a nearly complete hiatus for the quasi entire summer (over two months) seems a bit excessive, even for the French (of which I am one). Maybe they've suspended all deliveries to Paris for the last-mile preparations and duration of the Olympics and Paralympics to avoid any interference. It would be understandable, but at the same time, Alstom is quite late on the delivery of MP14 trains and 2 lines, M11 and the major M14 (which is extremely important for the games), are operating with reduced fleets. It's manageable for M11 but more problematic for M14. Currently, and since its large extension, line 14 is operating with a seriously incomplete fleet. There should be 72 MP14 trains in 8-car formation running on the line with 85 seconds between departures during peak hours. They lack at least something like 20 or 25 trains, so they can't operate at maximum frequency and are limited to 105 or 125 seconds at best between departures in high frequency. A few dozen seconds seem not much, but it is a big deal on such a busy line ; that's about 28 to 34 trains per hour per track instead of over 42... (that's up to between 10,000 and 16,000 fewer passengers transported per hour, it's huge). The line is expected to pass a million daily riders in the coming months and is primordial for the Olympics as it serves the Athletes Village, and crosses Paris in diagonal from North to South, while also serving Paris second international airport and following the busiest corridor parallel to lines 1 and A. I would have thought that they would have done everything to increase the fleet as soon as possible, even if it's only by 1, 2, or 3 additional trains.

@@KyrilPG I was not aware of that, thank you for the additional information! It is a huge impact actually.

@@FelixSeverus Yeah, even though it can be somehow manageable during the Olympics, it will be a problem in September when the holidays are over and transportation network is back to its +10 million passengers daily. Line 14 used to have about 650k daily riders in its previous form, operating with 85 seconds between departures during peak hours. But now, with 14 additional kilometers and an international airport station in the South, and a little under 2km of new extension plus a new hub station in the North, the "back-to-school / work" period in September will bring massive crowds in a line unable to operate at its highest capacity. With the currently incomplete fleet, a 2-hour window during peak hours will have a capacity reduced by 40,000 to +60,000 passengers on the line. So, it looks like September and following months are going to be difficult for everyday users of line 14. They've announced a complete fleet for December 2024 or January or February 2025, and I was initially wondering why so late. If there are no deliveries during this summer, that answers the question. There should be 3 to 4, maybe 5, trains delivered each month after the hiatus. I hope, if it's due to the Olympics, that Alstom will still produce them this summer and keep them on the factory to be delivered rapidly from September on. So that we can have a more normal back-to-work autumn and a faster return to the normal 85-second frequency.

Tgv in India would cool asf

It's quite an enigma to me why they are so clingy with the power car concept. It's not like they never tried to do an EMU. Their AGV had quite a conventional design compared to their other trains. A single decker EMU, just like pretty much any other high speed train. Still they kind of reverted back to the power car design.

Because the trains are designed as per request of a customer, the french railway operator SNCF, and one of the design point is for the train to fit within some historical stations with the quay length limitation of these stations (700 meters long trains I think, standard width/height to fit through historical tunnels, standard gauge etc...), and a requirement as minimum number of passenger per train (the high speed network is saturated enough that we can't add new trains to move more people, we need more passenger per train). An EMU have an electric engine on each boggy, which makes these boggys bigger than pulled ones, and with the high speed constrains (more powerful engines, generating more heat, long runs without slowing down allowing to cool the engines etc... ) in mind, EMU boggy are too big for double deck cars (obviously, double decker EMU do exist, but they don't cruise above 300 for two hours in a row). Althought you loose some space at both end of the train, a double decker with two power cars have more than 30% (from my not so reliable memory, number to check) the passenger capacity than a single deck emu. That is the only way found by TGV designers to reach the customer set goals. And that is why the AGV was developed only for the export market, because it did not fit the french operator demands. Pick which best suit your needs ^^

@@Kollum Good points, I didn't think about that. But from a quick search I did, it seems that the Duplex-TGVs are all about 200m long and hold around 500-600 passengers, depending on the layout. If two trainsets are coupled together they would be about 400m long and could transport between 1000-1200 people. Because I was curious I compared this to the single decker Siemens Velaro trains operating on the Eurostar service. Both operate on the French high speed network and with 390m a 16 car Eurostar trainset has 902 seats. Sadly I couldn't find any figures for the Avelia Horizon, or TGV M. But comparing these numbers, the difference doesn't seem to be that big. Since the TGVs with a capacity of around 600 passengers doesn't feature any first class accommodation, they aren't directly comparable. If one would use the remaining 10 meters to get both trains to equal length and use the space the double doors on some of the Velaro cars take up, then the difference between these two single and double decker trains would only be around 10%. That's still a significant difference of course, all I'm saying is that the difference is not that great.

@@joshdavid258 To add insult to injury they say they want to improve the design for the passengers, the railways and the DRIVERS.

@@StefanWithTrains3222I think they plan on having it be optionally driven I honestly doubt many operators will remove their drivers tbh..

Black and white based designs did in fact exist before Space X and thus not everything using this design scheme is inspired by Space X.

What do you find disturbing about it? I have never been in an TGV and I am just curios.

​@@aresivrc1800The commenter hasn't been on the TGV either. The bot is just saying something to get a reaction.

Indeetd its wazs wery ameizing to hier diz english-french